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This is a good system for the however for my new Win Mag that doesn't shoot as flat as my WSM I wanted to have some MOA built into the mount so that I could have enough elevation adjustment in the scope to shoot to yards and possibly beyond. I personally think Winchester should design the Model just slightly different so that better scope mounting options would be available. I think that the barrel should continue full bull barrel round for a couple of inches before the octagon tapering starts.

I then think that the barrel should be drilled and tapped in two locations and not drilled and tapped on the receiver. Winchester could drill and tap the barrel with the same spacing as the TC Encore and many base options would immediately be available to mount a scope with 20 MOA. I had hoped that I could find some way to get a picatinny rail to work. I studied the specs on rails and bases galore. I found that I could mount Weaver 29 and 11 bases to the rifle.

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The span between the slots in the Weaver bases is right at four inches. To get a riser rail to clamp across the bases I needed one with cross bolts that were 10 slots apart. At the inexpensive price of the Lion Gears riser I ordered one just to test the system to see if it would work. Well it works perfect I found that their is a huge height difference between the two bases 39 MOA to be exact, more on how I found that out later.

I found that if I clamped the rail onto the bases it would cause the aluminum rail to flex because the two bases are on different levels and if I had a scope mounted it would put a lot of torque on the scope so this idea was shelved. I fell back to my second option to mount the scope. This on a normal rifle would place the scope with Zero MOA. I then used the 10 plus and minus inserts to lift the scope up in the front and drop it in the rear. So I placed a 10 plus insert on the bottom of the front ring and a 10 minus on the top of the front ring.

I then did the opposite in the rear, a 10 plus on the top and a 10 minus on the bottom. In theory this should raise it up around 20 MOA and on the next trip to the range I found that is exactly what it did. I now have right at 20 MOA built into the elevation of the scope mount. Triggers and Lock Time I found on a forum some help with the trigger. The advise clearly worked however in my excitement I didn't take the time to find a scale to measure the difference. What I did was dry fire the rifle 10 times while applying pressure to the back of the hammer. This helped smooth out any roughness on the sear.

I also learned that the trigger pull is lighter when the hammer is cocked without using the lever. So I cycle the action with the lever then lower the hammer and then cock the hammer with my thumb before firing it. I can noticeably tell the difference in the trigger after doing the dry fires and always cocking the hammer with my thumb.

Below is table showing the trigger pull weights of my High Wall rifles. One of the things that the averaged numbers don't show is that after I did the ten dry fire technique the trigger pulls were more consistent and varied less. It is interesting that on my Win Mag I get a full half pound lighter trigger pull by decocking the hammer then pulling the hammer back to cock it again before I pull the trigger.

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I have been annoyed with the trigger pull on the WSSM rifle so I am going to have a Gunsmith lighten it up for me, down to around two and a half pounds. I know he replaced a spring and maybe some other adjustments. Anyhow the trigger is nice and light now, right at one and three quarter pounds.


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With this being my primary varmint rifle I was wanting a light trigger. I have one now. Obviously you can also lighten the trigger with the little set screw that is right behind the trigger. Just tighten the set screw tighter to lighten the trigger pull. My rifles have been set from the factory near the bottom already so the little I have tightened them hasn't offered a lot of adjustability but has lightened them some.

The lock time on the is the greatest drawback to the rifle. It just takes a lot of time for that hammer to fall all the way to fire the cartridge after the trigger breaks. Any slight movement of the rifle during this window of time can really hinder accuracy. The lighter and smoother you can get the trigger the better off you'll be in lessoning any movement during this window of time.

Then the falling block shears off the extruded brass when I open the action. Every so often I will get a miss fire because the built up brass in the firing pin hole prevents the firing pin from striking the primer hard enough. What I like to do to prevent this is to dry fire the rifle every so often and then open the action and blow down the barrel with an air compressor or with my mouth in the field, blowing out the small pieces of brass that get thrown into the barrel and chamber upon dry firing the rifle.

The primer shearing happens on all of my loads both factory and hand loads and I have heard that all the s in WSM have the same issue. Now on my new Win Mag I have had no issues at all with this happening. I also think that the rebounding hammer allows for the extrusion to happen where it isn't a striker system like found on a bolt action rifle.

I'm not really sure but I know the pressures are not too high. Shells in my X-Bolt or A-Bolt rifles show normal primer indentions. Butt Stock Shapes The straight butt stock looks cool however functionally I would really prefer a traditional pistol grip style stock. Obviously a pistol grip stock is more comfortable to shoot.

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I find that I actually place my fingers along the lever using it as a pistol grip when I shoot. A pistol grip would be more comfortable however it is not the main reason I would like a pistol grip. The main reason is that while hunting, with the rifle slung over my shoulder the lever catches on the pack shoulder straps and my clothes causing the action to open, often dropping out the cartridge or worse, cocking the hammer while leaving the cartridge in the chamber. A pistol grip would contour right behind the lever making the lever less exposed to catching on everything.

To solve this problem for the time being I wrap a velcro strap around the stock and over the lever. I can cock the hammer and take the shot. For a follow-up shot I have to spend an extra few seconds to pull the velcro so that I can open the action. I have debated shaping a piece of wood to attach to the bottom of the stock to create a pistol grip. I may add one to my rifles in the future or purchase an aftermarket stock.

For now the velcro trick is working just fine.

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I still want to tweak the load when I have some more time but it's shooting good enough to take it on a cow elk hunt. Here's a video of a shot taken to verify the trajectory of the A-Max. The shot was uphill considerably so I calculated educated guessed, but have since learned I can calculate the shot angle with Strelok Pro using the camera in my phone the horizontal distance of yards for the shot and plugged in the data into Strelok Pro on my Galaxy S4 phone.

Journal entries from hunting mule deer, elk and whitetail deer.

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Journal entries covering general information related to hunting and shooting. Many of these journal entries are from shooting on the rifle or archery range. There are also entries related to my experiences with the WSSM , rifles, optics and other equipment and products I use.

Journal entries from hunting coyotes, rock chucks, prairie dogs and the like with WSSM and Rem. Tichenor says the Encore is his blind and treestand gun. It's chambered for the 6. It has always been something of a cult cartridge, at most, in the U.


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  • This is my Big Timber Rifle. I wanted a rifle that would be at home hunting the deep dark--one that would anchor if there is such a phenomena big game as quickly as possible on public land. Of course, like any worthwhile rifle it had to have history. The Winchester was Browning's first design, and the cartridge that it is chambered in Dubbed his "Medicine Gun" for lions, Teddy used it to good effect on a number of game animals.

    I use it for whitetails and hopefully on an Oklahoma elk once I draw out.